{"id":4752,"date":"2018-11-03T12:08:33","date_gmt":"2018-11-03T20:08:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.entremundos.org\/revista\/?p=4752&lang=en"},"modified":"2019-05-27T16:19:24","modified_gmt":"2019-05-28T00:19:24","slug":"exodus-voices-from-the-refugee-caravan-part-3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.entremundos.org\/revista\/migration-en\/exodus-voices-from-the-refugee-caravan-part-3\/?lang=en","title":{"rendered":"Exodus: Voices From The Refugee Caravan, Part 3"},"content":{"rendered":"

The following interviews were conducted in Chiapas, Mexico, a week and a half after the caravan set out from San Pedro Sula, Honduras on October 13.<\/strong><\/p>\n

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Juan Carlos, from the small city of Comayagua, Honduras is traveling with his wife and three children. He explained that he can\u2019t make ends meet in his job as a truck driver. \u201cWhere I\u2019m from, if you pay the electricity bill, you don\u2019t eat.\u201d He previously worked in the US as a roofer and saved enough to build a house in Honduras. But a year and a half ago, his two brothers were murdered by extortionists. \u201cWe were making the effort to get by there and now I\u2019m the only one left. My mother\u2019s only son.\u201d He has sold family property to finance more than 20 attempts to re-enter the US. \u201cWe hope, we ask our Father to let the President of the United States open the door to us, to give us an opportunity.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n

The other voice is that of a rural laborer who often works on coffee plantations for L50 ($2.50) per day. He is traveling with his wife and three-year-old daughter. He has a L20,000 ($1,000) debt from his previous three attempts to reach the US.<\/strong><\/p>\n

I arrived when Katrina happened, when the disaster happened in New Orleans. It was very hard. There was work, but at that time I didn\u2019t know much [about roofing]. Thanks to God, I made a budget to live on and I was able to build my house.<\/em><\/p>\n

\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n

The poverty we have is hard. <\/em><\/p>\n

Friend: Because of the president [Juan Orlando Hernandez].<\/em><\/p>\n

Juan Carlos: Yeah, the president. The presidents of the US send aid and he takes it for himself. And the poor can only watch.<\/em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n

[To friend] Mel Zelaya, you said? More or less he helped us financially. Electricity was much cheaper. But with this new one, there are people who even disconnect their electricity because they pay a lot, too much.<\/em><\/p>\n

We pay in the house almost L8000 [$330]. We don\u2019t even have a fridge. We just have a TV and a sound system to listen to music. That\u2019s it. It\u2019s too much.<\/em><\/p>\n

I\u2019m a trucker. By month, they pay L6000. $300 per month. Imagine, with $300 what you\u2019re going to eat in a month. Where I\u2019m from, if you pay the electricity bill, you don\u2019t eat.<\/em><\/p>\n

We\u2019re here struggling, walking from Honduras to the [US] border. It\u2019s very hard. We hope, we ask our Father that the President of the United States opens the door to us, gives us an opportunity. Not to do harm, you know that Hondurans in the US only go to work. <\/em><\/p>\n

We don\u2019t go to cause harm, but\u2026 Sometimes, there are [places] like New Orleans, that are rebuilt by Hondurans. Almost all Hondurans have done all that work. The work of modifying the buildings, paint them, fix them, carpentry, put in insulation, air conditioning. Almost all of us who have been there know how to do this work. So hopefully they\u2019ll give us permission to work.<\/em><\/p>\n

I was at home and had been out of work for three months, and we heard the news [of the caravan] and we took the chance to go in a big group and maybe [the president\u2019s] heart will be moved to give us an opportunity.<\/em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

Because the truth is that in our country the situation is very hard. A lot of crime, a lot of murders. Murders in kidnappings. Even in the road in this path we\u2019re on, it\u2019s dangerous because there are kidnappings and they sell the kids\u2019 organs. So very hard. And you come by plane?<\/em><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve paid [extortion]. They even killed my two brothers for extortion. So it\u2019s hard. Because the truth is\u2026 everyone\u2026 me too. If I get a work permit, I\u2019d take my family out of there. It\u2019s hard, the situation there. <\/em><\/p>\n

A year and a half ago, they killed both at once. They were mechanics, they worked together in their own workshop. People saw that they were getting ahead, selling tires, all that. No one can get ahead in Honduras because they kill you. We were making the effort to get by there and now I\u2019m the only one left. My mother\u2019s only son. So I\u2019m going to make the effort to see if I can help my mom.<\/em><\/p>\n

And five, six years ago they deported me from the US. I was in the building, in the apartments, and I went out to take out the trash to the dumpster, and there they got me. I wasn\u2019t doing anything, there was no problem. I came and I was taking out the trash and ICE was there. And they took me and I was a prisoner for a month and a half in Baton Rouge. From there they sent me to Honduras. And now it\u2019s hard to get back in. I\u2019ve tried more than 20 times. I haven\u2019t even gotten to the border. We\u2019re not people who are going to do harm. We\u2019re going to help the country prosper. Because, you know, in the US, we pay taxes. You work, you pay taxes. You live there and you help the country, because with the taxes, you\u2019re paying, you don\u2019t live for free. You go just to work. There a lot of are people from Honduras who have two jobs. Working in a restaurant during the day and at night working construction or painting or anything. It\u2019s hard. We\u2019re asking God our Father to act for us.<\/em><\/p>\n

I\u2019ve spent a lot of money [trying to get to the states]. I had to sell my house to be able to travel. Because they even wanted to kill me. Because they wanted to kill my brothers and we looked alike. They wanted to kill me and I had to leave the Honduras. They\u2019ve never let me return to the US to have a new life. It\u2019s been hard.<\/em><\/p>\n

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Jos\u00e9, Wilmer and Erick are friends from a town in southern Honduras. They made it through elementary school, but their families couldn\u2019t afford for them to continue to study. They talked about low wages, a failing health system and high electricity bills. Wilmer had opened a corner store, but the electricity bills put him out of business.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jos\u00e9: Why the migration? Because in our country, there\u2019s a lot of corruption, there\u2019s hunger, families don\u2019t get the food they need. The minimum wage is low, it\u2019s going down. You don\u2019t make a lot to support a family. We harvest pineapple, yucca, caf\u00e9. 100L. You make $5 per day.<\/em><\/p>\n

Erick: From 6 to 2, eight hours.<\/em><\/p>\n

Jos\u00e9: You can\u2019t buy anything with that. That\u2019s why people migrate<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Wilmer: I had a business. I only worked to pay the electricity bill!<\/em><\/p>\n

Jos\u00e9: He had a business. A store. He closed it because he got an electricity bill for L10,000 [$412].<\/em><\/p>\n

Wilmer: It was L8,350 [$344]. For a month. L8,350 it came to for me and there were months where it was L3,600, L4,000, at time L6,000. It varied. So I said to myself better to close it. It was a store, in Honduras we call corner stores pulper\u00edas. That\u2019s why we came here, looking for a better life.<\/em><\/p>\n

Erick: And healthcare, how\u2019s that?<\/em><\/p>\n

Wilmer: In healthcare we\u2019re bad, too because there aren\u2019t even rehydration liquids in the hospitals. There, if you\u2019re sick, they send you to the private pharmacies to buy your medicine. And it didn\u2019t used to be like that. So you have to go to a pharmacy. They give you a prescription and you have to go with money. If you don\u2019t have money\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n

Jos\u00e9: The people who migrate, we\u2019re not bad people, criminals, we\u2019re not from the streets or gangs. We\u2019re in need, we\u2019re people who are going to fight for a better future for the family.<\/em><\/p>\n

Erick: Only we know the situation in our country.<\/em><\/p>\n

Interviewer: Did you manage to finish high school?\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/em><\/p>\n

Jos\u00e9: Elementary school. Just elementary school.<\/em><\/p>\n

Wilmer: Elementary school.<\/em><\/p>\n

Erick: Elementary school.<\/em><\/p>\n

Jos\u00e9: I had to work. And if you work… I couldn\u2019t study. I helped my mom, we\u2019re four siblings, so I had to work. To bring something home. And to support myself. So there we are, working slowly.<\/em><\/p>\n

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\"\"<\/a>Gendi Garc\u00eda, middle, from Pijijiapan, Mexico, distributes food and drinks donated by his community.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Interviewer: Why are you supporting the caravan?<\/em><\/p>\n

Gendi: Because we see that these are people in need, and personally for me, for the kids, who come suffering, since they\u2019ve been walking for eight days or more. As a human being and a Mexican\u2026 we support them. And here other countries have helped us too. So I think now it\u2019s our turn to do this good deed for them. And hopefully it will be like this in all the cities they still have to go through, hopefully people give them a hand.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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